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Michael Cleavely CoComply CEO  & Andrew Fahey Briars CEO

CoComply Founder Michael Cleavely Shares IR35 Insights on Briars' "Beyond Borders" Podcast

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April 9th, 2024
Michael Cleavely CoComply CEO  & Andrew Fahey Briars CEO.
CoComply CEO Michael Cleavely & Briars Group CEO Andrew Fahey | Beyond Borders Podcast

We're thrilled to announce that our founder, Michael Cleavely, was recently invited to be the first guest on the brand new podcast series "Beyond Borders," hosted by Andrew Fahey, CEO of Briars. In this engaging episode, Michael and Andrew delve into the complexities of IR35 legislation and its implications for businesses looking to expand their operations to the UK.

"Beyond Borders" is an exciting new podcast series that features insightful conversations with professionals from various fields, all of whom have valuable expertise in international expansion. From CEOs and entrepreneurs to key industry executives and global expansion leaders, "Beyond Borders" promises to deliver a wealth of knowledge and captivating stories.

Navigating IR35: CoComply's Expertise

At CoComply, our mission is to seamlessly, accurately, and fairly classify the world's workers. With our deep understanding of IR35 legislation, we are committed to helping businesses navigate the complexities of this law and ensure compliance.

During the podcast, Michael and Andrew discuss the importance of worker classification not only for businesses operating in the UK but also for those with a global presence. Many countries have similar legislation, while others are in the process of developing their own versions of IR35.

In the UK, the IR35 legislation has undergone several iterations since its introduction by HMRC in 2000. These changes have sometimes caused concerns for business managers regarding their UK expansion plans. However, as Michael and Andrew point out, both 'employed' and 'self-employed' classifications remain viable options for businesses and workers under IR35, depending on their specific circumstances.

The Importance of Reasonable Care

One key takeaway from the podcast is the concept of "reasonable care" within the IR35 legislation. HMRC is likely to view businesses favourably if they have made a genuine effort to implement IR35 correctly, have undergone appropriate due diligence, and have introduced thorough processes.


At CoComply, we pride ourselves on guiding businesses through the IR35 landscape, ensuring they take the right steps to demonstrate reasonable care and maintain compliance with IR35 regulations.

Watch the Full Episode

To watch the full video of Michael Cleavely's appearance on "Beyond Borders," simply click Here. You can also listen to the audio version on Spotify. Don't forget to follow Andrew Fahey and Michael Cleavely on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

Stay tuned for more updates and insights from CoComply as we continue our mission to fairly classify the world's workers."

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